1. Buttons in VEL
Hey, I'm trying to make some buttons which can have more than one line of
text on them. I try to put new line characters in the caption, but it doesnt
work. I tried sticking static labels on the buttons. didn't work.
I'm think i remember VB can do multi line buttons. any ideas how to do it in
VEL???
Thanks,
Mark.
2. Re: Buttons in VEL
Hi Mark,
The following code worked partially for me. Only problem is the ClickEvent
is not always captured. Strange!
Does anyone have a suggestion?
Ad
--Tested code follows:
without warning
include vel005.e
constant Form1 = CreateControl(FORM,0)
SetAttribute(Form1,{{CAPTION, "Form"},{CENTERFORM,TRUE}})
constant Button1 = CreateControl(BUTTON, Form1)
SetAttribute(Button1, {{TOP, 50}, {LEFT,200}, {HEIGHT, 50}, {DEFAULTBTN,
TRUE}})
constant Static1 = CreateControl(STATIC, Button1)
SetAttribute(Static1, {{TOP, 10}, {LEFT, 25}, {CAPTION, "Click"}})
constant Static2 = CreateControl(STATIC, Button1)
SetAttribute(Static2, {{TOP, 25}, {LEFT, 25}, {CAPTION, "Here"}})
procedure Button1_OnClick(integer id, atom p, atom q)
ShowMsg({"Clicked"})
end procedure
SetEvent(Button1, CLICK_EVENT, routine_id("Button1_OnClick"))
ShowForm(Form1,MODAL)
--End of Tested Code
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Van: Liquid-Nitrogen Software <nitrogen_069 at HOTMAIL.COM>
Aan: <EUPHORIA at LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU>
Verzonden: zaterdag 4 december 1999 8:36
Onderwerp: Buttons in VEL
> Hey, I'm trying to make some buttons which can have more than one line of
> text on them. I try to put new line characters in the caption, but it
doesnt
> work. I tried sticking static labels on the buttons. didn't work.
>
> I'm think i remember VB can do multi line buttons. any ideas how to do it
in
> VEL???
>
> Thanks,
> Mark.
3. Re: Buttons in VEL
>>The following code worked partially for me. Only problem is the ClickEvent
>>is not always captured. Strange!Does anyone have a suggestion?
When the source is not released to the list, only the person that has the
source can help to determine what the problem is.
It is my opinion that if the source is not released, then the product
should be considered commercial and should only be distributed from
the author's Web site and doesn't belong on this list. If the author
wants to protect his work, all they have to do is use a copyright when
they post the softwares source on the list. If they do not want it used
in any commercial software then they can say that in the header. In my
opinion this list should be used for helping others to learn Euphoria.
Bernie
4. Re: Buttons in VEL
I don't agree with you, Bernie. Have you got the source code for
kernel32.dll? No, you havn't, neither does anyone on this list. It is part
of Microsoft® Windows®, a commercial product. Yet it is used heavily in all
Euphoria for Windows applications, be it behind the scenes. And I remember
Robert Craig writing that he wanted to have third-party support for Euphoria
for Windows. Explicitly he said "written in Euphoria or another language".
Now there is VEL, still a very good environment and tool for programming
with the use of Euphoria. Unfortunately, Gary is collapsed or something, but
you cannot forbid people to talk about VEL or exchange (little) chunks of
VEL code. We're all people interested in programming and in Euphoria, but
we're free to choose our own tools, aren't we? And VEL is not commercial; I
never paid a cent, penny, euro or any other monetary value for it. So
please, leave us alone and stop the beating up of VEL, Gary Dumer and the
other VEL supporters. What have we done to you to make you so mad at us?
Ad
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Van: Bernie Ryan <bwryan at PCOM.NET>
Aan: <EUPHORIA at LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU>
Verzonden: zaterdag 4 december 1999 16:13
Onderwerp: Re: Buttons in VEL
> When the source is not released to the list, only the person that has
the
>
> source can help to determine what the problem is.
>
> It is my opinion that if the source is not released, then the product
>
> should be considered commercial and should only be distributed from
>
> the author's Web site and doesn't belong on this list. If the author
>
> wants to protect his work, all they have to do is use a copyright when
>
> they post the softwares source on the list. If they do not want it used
>
> in any commercial software then they can say that in the header. In my
>
> opinion this list should be used for helping others to learn Euphoria.
>
> Bernie
5. Re: Buttons in VEL
I thought this list was for talking about Euphoria, regardless of what third
party tools used. VEL is written in Delphi (?). Do you know Delphi? If you
do, then good for you. I don't. A lot of us don't. Therefore, it's wasteful
for the source code to be released. Why waste extra listserv space talking
about Delphi code? It's a Euphoria mailing list.
At risk of insulting you, Bernie, I've noticed you're really kind of a negative,
immature person. You get upset when things aren't done your way, and don't seem
to actually support anything anyone's written, except if it's yours.
I really don't want to sound like I'm trying to start a fight, although that is
how it looks. You're a great programmer, and very bright, but sometimes, it's
impossible to tell your real age.
Regards,
Greg
Bernie Ryan wrote:
> >>The following code worked partially for me. Only problem is the ClickEvent
> >>is not always captured. Strange!Does anyone have a suggestion?
>
> When the source is not released to the list, only the person that has the
>
> source can help to determine what the problem is.
>
> It is my opinion that if the source is not released, then the product
>
> should be considered commercial and should only be distributed from
>
> the author's Web site and doesn't belong on this list. If the author
>
> wants to protect his work, all they have to do is use a copyright when
>
> they post the softwares source on the list. If they do not want it used
>
> in any commercial software then they can say that in the header. In my
>
> opinion this list should be used for helping others to learn Euphoria.
>
> Bernie
6. Re: Buttons in VEL
I agree....
People who slag off the tools others use should keep quiet. I use VEL for
my Eden setup program and have no complaints at all with it. While I check
the Euphoria message board frequently and rarely post my opinions, I feel I
have to in this case. Do you not think that by slagging someone's library
that you may cause the author's to cease to release updates for it? Surely
constructive criticism isnt asking the impossible, although sometimes I
wonder if it is.
7. Re: Buttons in VEL
Why not just thank Gary for the effort that he has put out on behalf of
Euphoria, and hope that he is able to get back on line and share more
with us as time goes on. I think that it would be "nice" if the Delphi
source were at least available on his site or as part of the download from
the archive. I'm a lot more concerned that we might have in some manner
lost contact with a valuable contributing member of the list, than I am
concerned about some quibble that someone might have with what he has
done. I am probably one of the greatest proponents on this list of portability
at all levels. Damien looks as if it has the potential to be the most
important, portable tool that we have available to us for development other
than the base language itself. Since, at the moment, true portability
is not even remotely possible in straight Euphoria code, things like
Damien with VEL are about as close as we can get.
Unless you have just not looked, Damien has a large amount of very
meticulously coded Euphoria in it. It could serve as an example to most of
us. This, from a man who does not speak English as his native tongue.
Discussion of, use of Damien is a choice that each member on the list should
make on their own. As long as it is Euphoria centered, and nothing could
be more focused on Euphoria than Damien, it is appropriate to this list.
Bernie, you are free to be as opinionated as you wish on any subject on
this list. You are free to ignore any posts that do not meet your personal
criteria for discussion. What you are not free to do is to determine what
the rest of us will discuss. Threads that no one is interested in quickly
die without any help from anyone. Hopefully, this one will do so quickly.
Everett L.(Rett) Williams
rett at gvtc.com
Greg Phillips wrote:
>I thought this list was for talking about Euphoria, regardless of what third
>party tools used. VEL is written in Delphi (?). Do you know Delphi? If you
>do, then good for you. I don't. A lot of us don't. Therefore, it's wasteful
>for the source code to be released. Why waste extra listserv space talking
>about Delphi code? It's a Euphoria mailing list.
>
>At risk of insulting you, Bernie, I've noticed you're really kind of a
>negative,
>immature person. You get upset when things aren't done your way, and don't
>seem
>to actually support anything anyone's written, except if it's yours.
>
>I really don't want to sound like I'm trying to start a fight, although that is
>how it looks. You're a great programmer, and very bright, but sometimes, it's
>impossible to tell your real age.
>
>Regards,
>Greg
>
>Bernie Ryan wrote:
>
>> >>The following code worked partially for me. Only problem is the ClickEvent
>> >>is not always captured. Strange!Does anyone have a suggestion?
>>
>> When the source is not released to the list, only the person that has the
>>
>> source can help to determine what the problem is.
>>
>> It is my opinion that if the source is not released, then the product
>>
>> should be considered commercial and should only be distributed from
>>
>> the author's Web site and doesn't belong on this list. If the author
>>
>> wants to protect his work, all they have to do is use a copyright when
>>
>> they post the softwares source on the list. If they do not want it used
>>
>> in any commercial software then they can say that in the header. In my
>>
>> opinion this list should be used for helping others to learn Euphoria.
>>
>> Bernie
8. Re: Buttons in VEL
Greg
I think you missed my point. If software is placed on the
list and a lot of people want to use it. If that person leaves
the list or no longer wants to support it. Then that leaves
the people on the list without any help or support for that
software. If the source is posted to the list ( or placed
in the Euphoria archive ) then that software can be further
developed and be supported by you or anyone else that has the
knowledge to help. I don't think that this is unreasonable.
I am not talking about any specific software but all software.
Bernie
9. Re: Buttons in VEL
On Sat, 4 Dec 1999 16:34:06 -0500, Bernie Ryan <bwryan at PCOM.NET> wrote:
>Greg
>
> I think you missed my point. If software is placed on the
> list and a lot of people want to use it. If that person leaves
> the list or no longer wants to support it. Then that leaves
> the people on the list without any help or support for that
> software. If the source is posted to the list ( or placed
> in the Euphoria archive ) then that software can be further
> developed and be supported by you or anyone else that has the
> knowledge to help. I don't think that this is unreasonable.
> I am not talking about any specific software but all software.
>
>Bernie
If that is all that you had said, then most would agree with you in
principle. To recommend a course of action is not the same as
to recommend that anyone not following that course not be on the
list or in the archive. When you are asking for the fruits of someone
else's labor, words and phrases like "please", "with your permission",
and "thank you" carry a lot of weight. I think that I mentioned before
that posters of bound and shrouded code should post a copy of the
source to RDS as a guarantee against malevolent behaviors. RDS
should do the final bind and shroud from source provided them. That
would protect us all and protect the intellectual property rights of
the poster. The same could be said for source to other items like
VEL. The tie would not be as protective, but it would still be more
reassuring than the present completely open policy. Maybe some form
of EPL(Euphoria Public License) could be developed that would allow
RDS to release that source code to the archive and the list if the
person or business providing that code dropped maintenance of
that code or at least presence on the list for more than a given
period of time or if a proven viruslike behavior could be determined.
Just a thought for the future. Nobody would be restricted to using that
license, but those not using it might end up largely ignored on the
list and the archive, especially if the EPL and the purpose behind it
is clearly explained in Euphoria documentation.
Just a thought for the future.
Everett L.(Rett) Williams
rett at gvtc.com
10. Re: Buttons in VEL
Hello Mark
>Hey, I'm trying to make some buttons which can have more than one line of
>text on them. I try to put new line characters in the caption, but it
>doesnt work. I tried sticking static labels on the buttons. didn't work.
>
>I'm think i remember VB can do multi line buttons. any ideas how to do it
>in
>VEL???
>
>Thanks,
> Mark.
have you tried the '\r' character? or "\r\n" or "\n\r"?
Just something to try, I have no idea if it works or not.
later
Lewis Townsend.
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